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The truth about living in China as a Black American
Black American's Truth: Life in China, Shenzhen & Beijing
Meet Josh, an American who has lived in China for the last seven years. Here, he worked for Apple and later started his own business in manufacturing consultancy. Josh shared the honest truth about being Black in China, why many Americans don’t understand real life there, and whether he feels...
Meet Josh, an American who has lived in China for the last seven years. Here, he worked for Apple and later started his own business in manufacturing consultancy. Josh shared the honest truth about being Black in China, why many Americans don’t understand real life there, and whether he feels restricted living in China. Enjoy!
00:00 INTRO
00:22 What It’s Like Being Black in China
02:42 Shocks in China for Americans
03:52 Misconceptions About China in the U.S.
04:23 What Is the Chinese Dream?
05:38 Communism in China
07:02 Life in Shenzhen
08:39 EV Cars in China
09:19 Blocked Internet in China
10:58 Safety in China
14:07 How Surveillance Works in China
15:16 Why Foreigners Are Afraid to Work With China
17:04 The Biggest Electrical Market in the World
20:52 View on the U.S. After Living in China
24:47 Apartments in Shenzhen, China
25:55 Beijing vs. Shenzhen
27:59 Riding a Scooter in China
28:46 Fake Old City in China
29:24 How to Pay for Food in China
Join Max Chernov as he sits down with Josh, an American who has called China home for seven years. Josh, who has experience working for Apple and running his own manufacturing consultancy, offers a candid look at life as a Black American in China. He tackles common misconceptions and shares his personal experiences, shedding light on the realities of living in this dynamic country. Discover insights into the Chinese Dream, communism, and daily life in Shenzhen.
Meet Josh, an American who has lived in China for the last seven years. Here, he worked for Apple and later started his own business in manufacturing consultancy. Josh shared the honest truth about being Black in China, why many Americans don’t understand real life there, and whether he feels restricted living in China. Enjoy!
00:00 INTRO
00:22 What It’s Like Being Black in China
02:42 Shocks in China for Americans
03:52 Misconceptions About China in the U.S.
04:23 What Is the Chinese Dream?
05:38 Communism in China
07:02 Life in Shenzhen
08:39 EV Cars in China
09:19 Blocked Internet in China
10:58 Safety in China
14:07 How Surveillance Works in China
15:16 Why Foreigners Are Afraid to Work With China
17:04 The Biggest Electrical Market in the World
20:52 View on the U.S. After Living in China
24:47 Apartments in Shenzhen, China
25:55 Beijing vs. Shenzhen
27:59 Riding a Scooter in China
28:46 Fake Old City in China
29:24 How to Pay for Food in China
Max Chernov's video delves into the multifaceted experience of living in China as a Black American, featuring insights from Josh, who has resided there for seven years. Josh candidly shares his initial encounters with racial curiosity, where he was sometimes denied entry into clubs or bars, and how people would stare intently. He notes that while these instances were more prevalent in the past, they have lessened, especially in larger cities like Beijing and Shanghai. He emphasizes the need for patience, self-discipline, and self-awareness when navigating these cultural differences, explaining that the staring is often out of curiosity rather than malice.
Josh also addresses common misconceptions Americans hold about China, particularly the idea that it's a poor, backward country with limited opportunities. He counters this by highlighting the entrepreneurial spirit he's witnessed among young Chinese people and the significant opportunities available. He discusses the 'China Dream,' which he sees as the nation's aspiration for global strength and influence, alongside the personal dream of affording a comfortable lifestyle, noting the challenges posed by high housing costs in major cities.
Touching upon China's political system, Josh explains that while it is communist, with the Communist Party holding leadership positions, this structure has facilitated immense economic development and poverty reduction over the past four decades. He contrasts this long-term planning approach with the shorter election cycles in democracies, suggesting China is better positioned to address issues like global warming.
Shenzhen, where Josh has spent most of his time, is described as a modern, rapidly developing city with a strong focus on electric vehicles, evidenced by its all-electric taxi and bus fleets. However, he misses the cold weather, finding Shenzhen's heat and humidity challenging. The conversation also touches on internet access, noting that while many Western sites are blocked, VPNs can be used, and it becomes easier with a local SIM card. Josh expresses a strong sense of safety in China, contrasting it with his experiences in Southside Chicago. He attributes this to extensive public surveillance, which, while potentially intrusive, deters crime and creates a secure environment. He shares anecdotes of leaving belongings unattended in cafes without fear of theft, a stark difference from his perception of American cities.
Regarding business, Josh explains that despite geopolitical tensions, China remains essential for manufacturing at scale. He points to special economic zones established in 1978, like Shenzhen, as key drivers of China's manufacturing prowess. The video also explores the bustling electronics markets, where both genuine and counterfeit goods are readily available, showcasing the vastness of China's supply chain. Josh reflects on his return to the US, finding it more chaotic and divided than China, likening it to the 'Wild West' due to issues like homelessness, socioeconomic disparities, and gun violence. He contrasts the perceived lack of focus on basic needs like income and housing in the US with China's drive towards national strength and economic development. The video concludes with a look at Shenzhen apartments, the city's youthful demographic driven by economic ambition, and the distinct characteristics of Beijing versus Shenzhen, with Beijing being the political center and Shenzhen the hub for business and entrepreneurship.
Max Chernov's video features Josh, an American living in China for seven years, discussing the realities of being Black in China, dispelling myths about the country, and sharing his unique perspective. Josh recounts initial challenges with racial curiosity and stares, emphasizing patience and understanding. He debunks the notion of China as a backward nation, highlighting its rapid development, entrepreneurial spirit, and the 'China Dream.' He contrasts China's communist governance with Western democracies, noting its effectiveness in economic growth and long-term planning. Josh praises Shenzhen's commitment to electric vehicles and the high level of public safety, attributing it to surveillance. He also reflects on the essential role of China in global manufacturing and contrasts his experiences in China with a perceived decline in safety and equity in the US.
An American shares his seven-year experience living in China as a Black man, discussing cultural differences, safety, and dispelling myths about the country. He contrasts his life in China with the US.
Living in China: Black American Experience, Safety, and Business
1:08 In China, the experience of being Black is generally better in larger cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, where there's more exposure to diverse populations.
1:45 Don't interpret staring from locals as malicious intent; it's often driven by curiosity about your appearance and origin.
2:51 Adjusting to a new country like China involves embracing unfamiliar customs, values, and language, which can be overwhelming but is part of the immigrant experience.
9:33 If you have an American phone number, accessing the internet in China is generally easy, even without a VPN. A Chinese number may require a VPN for access to certain sites.
11:57 China's public safety is enhanced by extensive surveillance, making it a very secure society where one doesn't constantly worry about personal safety.
17:14 China's electronics markets are vast, offering everything from legitimate products to counterfeits, and are crucial for global manufacturing.
29:37 In most places in China, especially in smaller establishments, ordering food and paying is done via QR codes.
1:08 In China, the experience of being Black is generally better in larger cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, where there's more exposure to diverse populations.
1:45 Don't interpret staring from locals as malicious intent; it's often driven by curiosity about your appearance and origin.
2:51 Adjusting to a new country like China involves embracing unfamiliar customs, values, and language, which can be overwhelming but is part of the immigrant experience.
9:33 If you have an American phone number, accessing the internet in China is generally easy, even without a VPN. A Chinese number may require a VPN for access to certain sites.
11:57 China's public safety is enhanced by extensive surveillance, making it a very secure society where one doesn't constantly worry about personal safety.
17:14 China's electronics markets are vast, offering everything from legitimate products to counterfeits, and are crucial for global manufacturing.
29:37 In most places in China, especially in smaller establishments, ordering food and paying is done via QR codes.
0:22 Being Black in China
3:52 Misconceptions About China
4:23 The Chinese Dream
5:38 Life in Shenzhen
8:39 EV Cars in China
9:20 Blocked Internet in China
10:58 Safety in China
14:07 How Surveillance Works
15:16 Foreigners Working With China
17:04 Biggest Electronics Market
20:52 View on the US
24:50 Apartments in Shenzhen
26:00 Beijing vs. Shenzhen
28:46 Fake Old City
29:37 How to Pay for Food
0:00 INTRO
0:22 What It’s Like Being Black in China
2:42 Shocks in China for Americans
3:52 Misconceptions About China in the U.S.
4:23 What Is the Chinese Dream?
5:38 Communism in China
7:02 Life in Shenzhen
8:39 EV Cars in China
9:19 Blocked Internet in China
10:58 Safety in China
14:07 How Surveillance Works in China
15:16 Why Foreigners Are Afraid to Work With China
17:04 The Biggest Electrical Market in the World
20:52 View on the U.S. After Living in China
24:47 Apartments in Shenzhen, China
25:55 Beijing vs. Shenzhen
27:59 Riding a Scooter in China
28:46 Fake Old City in China
29:24 How to Pay for Food in China
max chernov中国旅行在中国生活black in chinaamerican in chinachina misconceptionschina safetyshenzhen lifechina businesschina electronics marketchina cultureWhat was it like being Black in China initially?
Initially, there were moments where I wasn't allowed into clubs or bars because of how I looked. People would stare intently, which was shocking at first.
What are the biggest misconceptions Americans have about China?
Many Americans think China is poor and backward with limited opportunities. I've found the opposite to be true, with significant opportunities for young entrepreneurs.
How is the 'China Dream' similar to the American Dream?
The China Dream is about China as a nation becoming a strong global presence. Personally, it's about affording a good lifestyle, though housing costs in cities like Shenzhen are very high.
Is it true that China is communist?
Yes, the government is organized under the Communist Party, which has driven economic development and lifted many out of poverty. However, it's not about people just obeying orders; it's about national advancement.
What's the biggest complaint about Shenzhen?
The heat and humidity, along with cockroaches and mosquitoes. I miss the cold weather.
How is internet access in China?
If you have an American phone number, internet access is generally easy. Once you get a Chinese number, the firewall becomes more apparent, but VPNs are common.
Do you feel safe living in China?
Extremely safe. Compared to growing up in Southside Chicago, I don't worry about violence or personal safety here. The extensive surveillance contributes to this.
Why are Americans afraid to work with China?
There's a geopolitical narrative against China, but businesses know manufacturing at scale is impossible without China. The challenges are more about cost, ecosystem navigation, and communication.
What's the biggest electronics market like?
It's massive, with multiple buildings selling everything from components to finished goods, including both genuine and counterfeit products.
How does the US compare to China after living there for years?
America feels divided and chaotic, like the 'Wild West,' with issues like homelessness and socioeconomic gaps. China, despite its system, feels more stable and focused on progress.
What are apartments like in Shenzhen?
They are compact but comfortable, making good use of space. My shared living room and two-bedroom apartment costs about $1,000 USD per month.
How is Beijing different from Shenzhen?
Beijing is the political center, with a palpable sense of government power and tighter controls during events. Shenzhen is more of a business-driven, younger immigrant city focused on entrepreneurship.
What is the 'fake old city' like?
It's a relatively new construction, perhaps only 20 years old, designed to look old. While some original buildings from the 1400s might be within, the facade is refurbished.
How do you pay for things in China?
Most places, even small ones and beggars, use QR codes for payment. It's very convenient and widely adopted.
